Can't re reinstall

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Apr 4, 2010
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Well nuts, my 30 day TC trial ran out before I had time to get anything done. I was just going in there for some quality time :-(
I uninstalled then tried to reinstall for another 30 but she won't let me.
Very clever boss, I wonder how you do that. Is there any way for me to get another 30? Well, I know I want it so maybe I'll just cough up now. :-)

BTW, I heard a whispering that '4Linux' might be a possibility.
I can't think of something that would ease the transition to Linux better than that would. I've tried it three times and get beaten back to DOS every time 'cause I can't get used to BASH and getting trapped inside VI and not having a backspace key and on and on.
 

rconn

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May 14, 2008
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> Well nuts, my 30 day TC trial ran out before I had time to get anything
> done. I was just going in there for some quality time :-(
> I uninstalled then tried to reinstall for another 30 but she won't let
> me. Very clever boss, I wonder how you do that. Is there any way for
> me to get another 30? Well, I know I want it so maybe I'll just cough up
> now.
There's no way to reset the trial. But you could install TCMD/LE, which
would give you another 30 days (with the full TCMD, but TCC/LE instead of
the full TCC).


> BTW, I heard a whispering that '4Linux' might be a possibility.
> I can't think of something that would ease the transition to Linux
> better than that would. I've tried it three times and get beaten back
> to DOS every time 'cause I can't get used to BASH and getting trapped
> inside VI and not having a backspace key and on and on.
We've been diddling with an internal version for some time, but I'm still
doubtful there's actually a market for it.

Rex Conn
JP Software
 
Apr 4, 2010
57
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#3
There's no way to reset the trial. But you could install TCMD/LE, which
would give you another 30 days (with the full TCMD, but TCC/LE instead of
the full TCC).


We've been diddling with an internal version for some time, but I'm still
doubtful there's actually a market for it.

Rex Conn
JP Software
Rex,

Never mind, I'll just pony up, I know I want it.

As to 4Linux, I hope you're wrong, sheesh, I can't think of something I'd be more likely to pay for. Bashing your head against BASH when you have no idea what you're doing, and the only help available presumes that you are already an expert, ain't fun.
 
Dec 17, 2009
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Germany
#4
Rex,
As to 4Linux, I hope you're wrong, sheesh, I can't think of something I'd be more likely to pay for. Bashing your head against BASH when you have no idea what you're doing, and the only help available presumes that you are already an expert, ain't fun.
There isn't just bash, but also the Korn shell ksh, tcsh, the very elaborate zsh, and the one you might possibly like best, the friendly interactive shell fish.

Here is more information on fish - if it isn't already available on your system to try out, it should be a small download.

Against that much competition from free and open-source software, 4Linux would have a hard time. Especially because of the many scripts for system maintenance, configuration, back-ups etc. that already exist for bash & company.


P.S. "Getting trapped inside vi"?

The default CML-editing mode for bash is EMACS. Here are cheat sheets for either mode: EMACS and vi .
 
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drrob1

Guest
#5
4Linux

I would agree that there is no commercial market for a 4Linux since
there are several linux shells available.

But as long as you have an internal version, it may benefit you to
release it like tcc/le. It's probably a good thing for the company name
to be more prominent.

It may be worth something to be able to run unmodified batchfiles in
linux; bash scripting is so obtuse.

And tcc does some very convenient things that bash does not. The
command history recall system in bash sucks.




> ---Quote---
>> BTW, I heard a whispering that '4Linux' might be a possibility.
>> I can't think of something that would ease the transition to Linux
>> better than that would. I've tried it three times and get beaten back
>> to DOS every time 'cause I can't get used to BASH and getting trapped
>> inside VI and not having a backspace key and on and on.
> ---End Quote---
> We've been diddling with an internal version for some time, but I'm still
> doubtful there's actually a market for it.
>
> Rex Conn
> JP Software
 
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drrob1

Guest
#6
bash. Formerly Can't reinstall

Install vim from the repositories, as it gives the backspace you (and I)
expect.

And install medit from the repositories. You can install jedit if you
wish, also. jedit is avail for windows if you want to play first.

I have defined the following in my .bash_aliases to give me a more
familiar environment. This belongs in your home directory /home/ray or
whatever you use.

alias copy='cp -u -v'
alias del='rm -v'
alias md='mkdir'
alias move='mv -u -v'
alias ren='mv -u -v'
alias rd='rmdir'
alias ..='cd ..'
alias ...='cd ../..'
alias +='pushd .'
alias viu='vim -u NONE'

Note that there is no ren in linux, move does it.





>
> As to 4Linux, I hope you're wrong, sheesh, I can't think of something I'd be more likely to pay for. Bashing your head against BASH when you have no idea what you're doing, and the only help available presumes that you are already an expert, ain't fun.
>
>
 
#7
4Linux

| I would agree that there is no commercial market for a 4Linux since
| there are several linux shells available.
|
| But as long as you have an internal version, it may benefit you to
| release it like tcc/le. It's probably a good thing for the company
| name to be more prominent.
|
| It may be worth something to be able to run unmodified batchfiles in
| linux; bash scripting is so obtuse.

My guess is that system administrators who need to deal with both Windows
and *Nix systems would be prime candidates for TCU (Take Command of Unix) so
they would have a single consistent set of tools on all platforms. As I am
no longer in such an environment, this is just a guess. However, releasing a
TCC/LE type subset as a freeware appetizer might bring in a few big company
candidates to make it worth while to release a commercial version.
--
Steve
 
Apr 4, 2010
57
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#8
Re: 4Linux

I would agree that there is no commercial market for a 4Linux since
there are several linux shells available.

But as long as you have an internal version, it may benefit you to
release it like tcc/le. It's probably a good thing for the company name
to be more prominent.

It may be worth something to be able to run unmodified batchfiles in
linux; bash scripting is so obtuse.

And tcc does some very convenient things that bash does not. The
command history recall system in bash sucks.
Thanks all for help with my Linux problems. I wish I had guys like you around for my next attempt to master it. Anyway, for me, 4DOS set a standard of usability that has in effect 'spoiled' me since I now expect nothing less in any OS -- so I can't help but think that Rex could give us something with a better power/grief ratio than now exists in Linux. But as some of you guys mentioned, there are better tools than the ones I've bumped into so far.
 
Apr 4, 2010
57
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Re: 4Linux

Thanks all for help with my Linux problems. I wish I had guys like you around for my next attempt to master it. Anyway, for me, 4DOS set a standard of usability that has in effect 'spoiled' me since I now expect nothing less in any OS -- so I can't help but think that Rex could give us something with a better power/grief ratio than now exists in Linux. But as some of you guys mentioned, there are better tools than the ones I've bumped into so far.
Hey I just thought of it, how about RASH ... Rex Again SHell for Linux :-)