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Minor OE issue with new fora

Discussion in 'Open Forum' started by Steve Fabian, Jun 5, 2008.

  1. Steve Fabian

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    The issue below is probably a weakness in OE's message rule implementation.

    I use "message rules" in OE to have all messages moved to their respective
    NG folder. I do not allow the rules to mark messages "read". In my display,
    I show all messages, and normally I have them sorted by time of receipt (not
    threaded). This works as intended.

    When I switch to a folder whose contents are manually moved there, or to a
    newsgroup folder, the cursor is moved to the message I displayed on my last
    visit of the folder, and newer messages are below that. However, when I
    switch to a folder loaded by message rules with messages since my last
    visit, the last received message is selected. To locate the first unread
    message I have to navigate; during this time the last message might change
    from "unread" to "read".
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    Steve
     
  2. rconn

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    Steve Fábián wrote:

    I don't understand how this is related to the new forums.

    Rex Conn
    JP Software
     
  3. Jerry Jankura

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    On Jun 5, 2008, at 10:38 AM, rconn wrote:


    I think that the "issue" is that folks are trying to write E-Mail
    handling rules using the "subject" rather than the "from" part of the
    mail header. I'm not having issues with sorting JPSoft support E-Mails
    using the "from" and having one rule have several "OR" conditions -
    one for each of the forums that I've subscribed to.

    One thing that I haven't implemented (at least not yet) is having a
    separate rule and folder for each of the different forums, which would
    further segregate the messages. This would be easy to implement with
    the "new" format because Rex has set up separate forums but would be
    somewhat difficult with the sparklist format because there was only
    one support forum.

    The bottom line - folks you may want to use the "from" part of the
    message header rather than the "subject" part of the message header.

    Jerry Jankura
    So many toys.... So little time....
     
  4. Steve Fabian

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    rconn wrote:
    | Steve Fábián wrote:
    |
    |
    | ---Quote---
    || The issue below is probably a weakness in OE's message rule
    || implementation.
    ||
    || I use "message rules" in OE to have all messages moved to their
    || respective NG folder. I do not allow the rules to mark messages
    || "read". In my display, I show all messages, and normally I have them
    || sorted by time of receipt (not threaded). This works as intended.
    ||
    || When I switch to a folder whose contents are manually moved there,
    || or to a newsgroup folder, the cursor is moved to the message I
    || displayed on my last visit of the folder, and newer messages are
    || below that. However, when I switch to a folder loaded by message
    || rules with messages since my last visit, the last received message
    || is selected. To locate the first unread message I have to navigate;
    || during this time the last message might change from "unread" to
    || "read".
    | ---End Quote---
    | I don't understand how this is related to the new forums.

    The old ones did not require message rules to be delivered to their
    respective folders, and the "last accessed" message, where the cursor is
    positioned, was the one I last read. The new ones the cursor goes to the
    last received message, not the last read message. A difference in what I
    need to do to pick up where I left off.
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    Steve
     
  5. Steve Fabian

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    Jerry Jankura wrote:
    | The bottom line - folks you may want to use the "from" part of the
    | message header rather than the "subject" part of the message header.

    That's how I did it from the first time I set up rules. The problem is the
    difference in OE's behavior when messages are put into a folder
    automatically be message rules vs. nntp: folders or unsorted messages in the
    IN folder.
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    Steve
     
  6. Howard Goldstein

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    Steve Fabian wrote:


    I just discovered a very easy way to perform this type of navigation. In
    OE's View menu, there's an option called Next Unread whose shortcut key is
    ctrl-u. It turns out that this command will wrap around. So if you enter
    the folder and find yourself at the bottom, just press ctrl-u and you'll
    immediately be at the first unread message.

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    Howard
     

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