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Typing ` and ^ does not work right in Take Command when using pseudoconsoles

Juanma Barranquero

Juanma Barranquero

Jun
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Windows 11 Pro, TCMD 36.00.27, language: Spanish (es-es), Spanish keyboard.
  • Running TCC from outside TCMD works right.
  • Running TCC inside TCMD, with pseuconsoles disabled works right.
  • Running TCC inside TCMD, with pseudoconsoles enabled:
    When I want to type or ^ I have to retry a few times before or ^ appears (or just keep the key down until I get a few of them and then remove the unwanted ones).
 
Do those keys do something special on a Spanish keyboard?

Without ConPTY, TCMD just passes the message on to TCC. That doesn't work in a ConPTY session, as there isn't a message handler / queue. So TCMD has to convert the key and send an ANSI sequence to ConPTY. If it's a special key (function keys, arrow keys, etc.) additional processing is required. A ` or ^ character isn't anything special in English, but maybe they are in Spanish?
 
... Dead keys for entering accented letters?

Does the tilde/swung dash key ~ also act funky?
 
Excuse sending my answer as an image (from notepad), because the ` dead key is killing the formatting of this message.

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rconn said:
Try it in build 32 (already uploaded) and let me know if it's working.
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It is still inconsistent. For example, this is the result of typing three times in a row the combination of dead key followed by a:

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BTW, this is all with "Pseudoconsoles (ConPTY)" enabled in the Advanced settings and "Run in Pseudoconsole (ConPTY)" not checked in the individual tab setup. But I just realized that if I disable the Advanced setting and enable it in an individual tab, the tab doesn't seem to be in a pseudoconsole, as the dead keys work and the tab is detachable...)
 
rconn said:
Please try it again with build 33 (already uploaded).
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Dead keys seem to be working as expected now. Thanks.

The other problem I mentioned is still there: if I uncheck "Run in Pseudoconsole (ConPTY)" and enable the pseudoconsole in a tab, that tab doesn't seem to run in a pseudoconsole (as it can be detached).
 
Juanma Barranquero said:
The other problem I mentioned is still there: if I uncheck "Run in Pseudoconsole (ConPTY)" and enable the pseudoconsole in a tab, that tab doesn't seem to run in a pseudoconsole (as it can be detached).
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Not reproducible here -- are you using the Run dialog to start the new tab (with ConPTY enabled)?

Type "echo %_conpty" in the new console to see if it's a pseudoconsole or not.

Note that you can "tear off" (i.e., undock) a ConPTY tab, but that is not the same as "detaching" it. Tearing off a tab will allow you to drag it around and redock it, and will show a tab label just below the caption bar (which will not exist on a detached session). An undocked tab will close when TCMD closes; a detached session will not.
 
What I do is:
  • I start TakeCommand as an administrator (that's how I always run it).
  • I disable Options / Take Command / Advanced / Advanced Options / Pseudoconsoles (ConPTY).
  • I define an startup tab in Options / Take Command / Tabs. Title is ROL, Command is TCC, Directory is D:\Rol, Run As is empty, Pasword is empty, and Run in Pseudoconsole (ConPTY) is enabled.
  • Then I exit TakeCommand, and restart it (again, as an administrator).
  • If I use Home / Run and I choose Start in ConPTY and app TCC, then in that tab, echo %_conpty returns 1 as expected.
  • However, in the ROL startup tab, echo %_conpty returns 0.

According to the help,
Pseudoconsole (ConPTY): If enabled, Take Command will default to starting new tabs using pseudoconsoles. This can be overridden in the Run dialog, or the Startup Tabs options on the Tabs page.
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I would expect the startup tab ROL to be in a pseudoconsole.
 
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