CAPS LOCK?

samintz

Scott Mintz
May 20, 2008
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Solon, OH, USA
vefatica <> wrote on 08/02/2011
03:56:34 PM:


>
> |If you are running Win7 Professional it is a free
> |download from Microsoft.
> |microsoft.com/windows/vir.../download.aspx
>
> VirtualPC is free anyway, isn't it? And then what do you do? Must
I install XP

> from distribution media on a Virtual hard drive? If so, then I would
hardly

> call any of it a feature of Win7.
>
The license to run Virtual XP is included in Win7
Pro. Otherwise, you are legally required to purchase a copy of WinXP
to run in the virtual machine. The link above downloads not only
Virtual PC, but the Virtual XP image.


> |> Tirade: It took three phone calls (nearly
2 hours) to get MS support

> |> (India, Philippines, Panama) to understand the paragraph above
and

> |> the fact that I wanted to get rid of the bogus boot menu entry.

> |> Their solution was download EASYBCD (third party); they refused
to

> |> help me use BCDEDIT. That realy p###ed me off and I let them
know

> |> it. I got rid of the entry myself with BCDEDIT.
>
> |If you had posted it here in the open forum, you would
> |have gotten an answer within a few minutes I gather.
>
> Has anyone here used BCDEDIT? AFAIK it's the only built-in tool for
the job.

> Using it isn't for everyone. I suppose the intention was to prevent
folks

> screwing things up (as could happen editing the plain-text BOOT.INI).
>
I've used it a couple of times. My biggest gripe
is that I can never remember the name of that tool. BOOT.INI was
easy to remember and even easier to edit. I use it so rarely though
that I always have to search for the tool because I can't remember its
name. So I start with DIR B* and go from there.

-Scott
 
May 20, 2008
9,274
62
Syracuse, NY, USA
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:25:48 -0400, samintz <> wrote:

|The license to run Virtual XP is included in Win7
|Pro. Otherwise, you are legally required to purchase a copy of WinXP
|to run in the virtual machine. The link above downloads not only
|Virtual PC, but the Virtual XP image.

But where is the virtual image of XP? Must the user already own XP media and
install it on a VHD?
 
Jun 2, 2008
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Another observation.

After starting explorer.exe and getting an actual desktop, I noticed that the Recycle Bin looked like it had something in it. Wondering how much trash the System had created, I double clicked it and got the "identity is incorrect" error again. But.. I was able to right click the Recycle Bin and empty the two mystery items that were in there.
 
May 20, 2008
9,274
62
Syracuse, NY, USA
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:55:19 -0400, TEA-Time <> wrote:

|After starting explorer.exe and getting an actual desktop, I noticed that the Recycle Bin looked like it had something in it. Wondering how much trash the System had created, I double clicked it and got the "identity is incorrect" error again. But.. I was able to right click the Recycle Bin and empty the two mystery items that were in there.

If SYSTEM wants them back he/she might be angry with you.
 

samintz

Scott Mintz
May 20, 2008
1,329
12
Solon, OH, USA
You are downloading the VHD with the image
preinstalled.
-Scott

vefatica <> wrote on 08/02/2011
04:42:13 PM:


> On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:25:48 -0400, samintz <> wrote:
>
> |The license to run Virtual XP is included in Win7
> |Pro. Otherwise, you are legally required to purchase a copy of WinXP
> |to run in the virtual machine. The link above downloads not only
> |Virtual PC, but the Virtual XP image.
>
> But where is the virtual image of XP? Must the user already own XP
media and

> install it on a VHD?
>
>
 

samintz

Scott Mintz
May 20, 2008
1,329
12
Solon, OH, USA
You can always run PSEXEC -s -i to run
a process as the SYSTEM user. I do this when I want to run REGEDIT
as the SYSTEM user in order to get access to the SAM and SECURITY hives.

I imagine you could run "PSEXEC
-s -i explorer.exe" to run an instance of Explorer as the SYSTEM user.


-Scott





On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:55:19 -0400, TEA-Time
<> wrote:

|After starting explorer.exe and getting an actual desktop, I noticed that
the Recycle Bin looked like it had something in it. Wondering how much
trash the System had created, I double clicked it and got the "identity
is incorrect" error again. But.. I was able to right click the Recycle
Bin and empty the two mystery items that were in there.

If SYSTEM wants them back he/she might be angry with you.
 
Jun 2, 2008
305
1
You can always run PSEXEC -s -i to run
a process as the SYSTEM user.
Ah.. love the SysInternals utilities!

I do this when I want to run REGEDIT
as the SYSTEM user in order to get access to the SAM and SECURITY hives.
Neat trick! I've never been in those hives before. >:->

I imagine you could run "PSEXEC
-s -i explorer.exe" to run an instance of Explorer as the SYSTEM user.
Running that at the "normal" desktop simply opens an Explorer window and doesn't leave an explorer.exe running as SYSTEM. Running it on desktop 0 is no different than running explorer.exe, I'm sure since it already is SYSTEM.

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.

More observations (yup, still fiddlin')...

If desktop 0 sits there for longer than like a minute without being touched, the console automatically locks itself. Hitting Ctrl+Alt+Del takes you to the screen where you can unlock a currently logged in user or log in another user with Other User. Hitting Ctrl+Alt+Del while on desktop 0 also immediately locks the console.

There's an explorer.exe in both C:\Windows and C:\Windows\system32. They're only close in size, so not the same file. Running the one in system32 gives the identity is incorrect error, whereas the one in Windows gives the actual desktop (so my cmd vs. tcc observation was incorrect; I just so happened to run the wrong one with cmd and the right one with tcc due to having "Win64 File System Redirection" turned off). Trying to run either one after Explorer is already started results in the same identity is incorrect error. IE runs just fine, though. But typing C: into the address bar, which normally morphs it into an Explorer window, results in the same identity is incorrect error.

LOL It's actually possible to close the "Return to your Windows desktop" dialog and another combined item called "Shell0 Window" using the red Xes on the icons on the taskbar once you get Explorer running. This gives you the illusion that you're stuck on that desktop with no way to return! I found that starting anything with a GUI, like Task Manager by right clicking the taskbar, makes the "Return to your Windows desktop" dialog reappear. Of course, in hindsight, I could have hit Ctrl+Alt+Del or just let it sit there long enough.

I'm doing this on another computer now and I'm trying to figure out a way to see exactly what (probably the same) 2 items are in the Recycle Bin, since attempting to bring up ANY type of Explorer window results in the identity is incorrect error.
 
Jun 2, 2008
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I'm doing this on another computer now and I'm trying to figure out a way to see exactly what (probably the same) 2 items are in the Recycle Bin, since attempting to bring up ANY type of Explorer window results in the identity is incorrect error.
The Local System Security Identifier is S-1-5-18. Looks like it's two gadgets (which are actually like little websites in folder structures)!

Code:
C:\$Recycle.Bin\S-1-5-18>tree /h /f

C:\$Recycle.Bin\S-1-5-18
├  $IAHTRWR.Gadget
├  $IKV8LJN.Gadget
├──$RAHTRWR.Gadget
│  ├──css
│  │  ├  flyout.css
│  │  ├  settings.css
│  │  └  style.css
│  ├──en-US
│  │  ├  flyout.html
│  │  ├  gadget.xml
│  │  ├──images
│  │  │  ├  1.gif
│  │  │  ├  background-undocked.png
│  │  │  ├  background.png
│  │  │  ├  close.png
│  │  │  ├  flyout-background.png
│  │  │  ├  left.png
│  │  │  ├  right.png
│  │  │  ├  warning.png
│  │  │  ├  winzip.ico
│  │  │  └  Winzip.jpg
│  │  └  settings.html
│  ├  flyout.html
│  ├  gadget.html
│  ├  gadget.xml
│  ├  icon.png
│  ├──images
│  │  ├  1.gif
│  │  ├  background-undocked.png
│  │  ├  background.gif
│  │  ├  background.png
│  │  ├  close.png
│  │  ├  flyout-background.png
│  │  ├  left.png
│  │  ├  right.png
│  │  ├  warning.png
│  │  ├  winzip.ico
│  │  └  Winzip.jpg
│  ├──js
│  │  ├  gadget.js
│  │  └  settings.js
│  ├  left.png
│  ├  logo.png
│  └  settings.html
├──$RKV8LJN.Gadget
│  ├──css
│  │  ├  flyout.css
│  │  ├  settings.css
│  │  └  style.css
│  ├──en-US
│  │  ├  flyout.html
│  │  ├  gadget.xml
│  │  ├──images
│  │  │  ├  1.gif
│  │  │  ├  background-undocked.png
│  │  │  ├  background.gif
│  │  │  ├  background.png
│  │  │  ├  close.png
│  │  │  ├  flyout-background.png
│  │  │  ├  left.png
│  │  │  ├  right.png
│  │  │  ├  warning.png
│  │  │  ├  winzip.ico
│  │  │  └  Winzip.jpg
│  │  └  settings.html
│  ├  flyout.html
│  ├  gadget.html
│  ├  gadget.xml
│  ├  icon.png
│  ├──images
│  │  ├  1.gif
│  │  ├  background-undocked.png
│  │  ├  background.gif
│  │  ├  background.png
│  │  ├  close.png
│  │  ├  flyout-background.png
│  │  ├  left.png
│  │  ├  right.png
│  │  ├  warning.png
│  │  ├  winzip.ico
│  │  └  Winzip.jpg
│  ├──js
│  │  ├  gadget.js
│  │  └  settings.js
│  ├  left.png
│  ├  logo.png
│  └  settings.html
└  desktop.ini
 
But where is the virtual image of XP? Must the user already own XP media and install it on a VHD?
No need for a separate license or separate media, it is all available from that download page (once you've selected a version and a language, you get two Download buttons, one for the virtual disk and the other for the software installation).

Once you've downloaded both it is all quite straightforward if I remember correctly (it is more than eighteen months since I installed it on my work laptop but I don't recall any issues)