News Take Command / TCC / CMDebug / TCC-RT v25 Public Beta Build 8 Uploaded

[rconn]

I've uploaded build 8 of the v25 public beta to the web site. All of the reported bugs have been fixed, and the help files have some updates.

 

[nikbackm]

Is v25 using the new ConPTY mechanism in Windows 10 for the TCMD/TCC communication? I sort of got that impression from this change:

"The communication between Take Command and TCC is much faster & uses less CPU time. "

 

[rconn]

No, it's not. I've experimented with ConPTY, however at its current state ConPTY is considerably slower than the existing TCMD / TCC output. (As in maybe half the speed.)

 

[nikbackm]

Thanks, good to know you keep an eye on it.

I would like full support for the new Windows 10 ANSI features in TCMD at some point and for that I assume ConPTY is the only way forward.

(I tested the preview of the Windows Terminal myself and it was also much slower -- about 10 times -- than a raw console and TCMD. Possibly because my graphics card is quite old and so forces use of software rendering in Direct2D.)

 

[AnrDaemon]

Erm. Your card can't be THAT old???

 

[nikbackm]

Offtopic, but I have a HD4350 from 2009. Just a guess that it was the reason for the mediocre performance, might just as well be the un-optimized preview code.

 

[rconn]

I would like full support for the new Windows 10 ANSI features in TCMD at some point and for that I assume ConPTY is the only way forward.

Thus far Microsoft has declined to document the APIs necessary for the ANSI support.

 

[nikbackm]

I thought you got ANSI "for free" with ConPTY without having to rely on console specific APIs? The Windows Terminal seems to have full ANSI support in its tabs at least.

 

[Joe Caverly]

"The new Win32 ConPTY API (formal docs to follow soon) is now available in recent Windows 10 Insider builds and corresponding Windows 10 Insider Preview SDK, and will ship in the next major release of Windows 10 (due sometime in fall/winter 2018). "

Above from https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/co...ntroducing-the-windows-pseudo-console-conpty/

Joe

 

[rconn]

That doesn't help TCMD, which needs a way to determine the color used in the console. Unless I switch to ConPTY and everyone welcomes the 50% decrease in performance.