Windows 7 copying and Take Command

[CWBillow]

I'm running Windows 7 b7000.

As part of my backup, using a batch file I copy all the files from my "C" drive to a backup disk. But there's some typwe of translation that seems to take place, because folders that were / are part of my "All Users" Start Menu - "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" -- don't end up there on the backup drive -- or so it seems to me. It seems that they end up at "I:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs".

I understand the backward compatibility plan of Windows 7, but I didn't think that included physically moving files to the "old location."

I'm using TC 9.02. Is that the issue maybe? I wouldn't think so, but ...

Regards,
Chuck Billow

 

[dbartt]

> As part of my backup, using a batch file I copy all the files from my "C" drive to a backup disk. But there's some typwe of translation that seems to take place, because folders that were / are part of my "All Users" Start Menu - "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" -- don't end up there on the backup drive -- or so it seems to me. It seems that they end up at "I:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs".
>
> I understand the backward compatibility plan of Windows 7, but I didn't think that included physically moving files to the "old location."

No translation but an artifact of the way Windows 7 and Vista store the
"Documents and Settings" folder. It's a junction to "Users" so your copy is
creating a real "Documents and Settings" folder by following the junction rather
than just creating a junction. Try using the /nj option on your copy to ignore
junctions. I don't know if copy will still create the junction entry without
actually following and copying the tree.

Dennis

 

[CWBillow]

No translation but an artifact of the way Windows 7 and Vista store the
"Documents and Settings" folder. It's a junction to "Users" so your copy is
creating a real "Documents and Settings" folder by following the junction rather
than just creating a junction. Try using the /nj option on your copy to ignore
junctions. I don't know if copy will still create the junction entry without
actually following and copying the tree.

Dennis

But it will still copy the original data? So I don't have to check every folder to make sure it's copied??

Regards,
Chuck Billow

 

[dbartt]

> But it will still copy the original data? So I don't have to check every folder to make sure it's copied??

I haven't tested it but it should copy the actual original data. I'm not sure
about copying of the "Documents and Settings" junction.

 

[Steve Fabian]

dbartt wrote:
| ---Quote---
|| But it will still copy the original data? So I don't have to check
|| every folder to make sure it's copied??
| ---End Quote---
| I haven't tested it but it should copy the actual original data. I'm
| not sure about copying of the "Documents and Settings" junction.

I use
*copy/[!DESCRIPT.ION]/a:-d/fhjkuvxz/nejt/s/md c:\ d:\
to back up my primary drive to another drive. It copies all files, but does
not copy trees starting at a junction. Files which have "hard links" (i.e.,
file bodies cataloged under multiple directory entries) are copied under
each directory entry. I use WinXP, on which attribute changes made for one
directory entry are not immediately updated for the other directory entries
of hard linked files, using /X/A:A to prevent making multiple copies of the
file body does NOT work. All physical files in the source tree are copied.
IIRC Vista allows directories to have be hard linked also; this may result
in whole trees duplicated...

Making a record of junctions on the backup device may be useful; you can do
it with a command like this:
pdir/s/a:j/(fpnq @junction[*]) c:\

Another useful, but very time-consuming process is to make a file to allow
recreating file hard links.
--
HTH, Steve

 

[CWBillow]

dbartt wrote:
| ---Quote---
|| But it will still copy the original data? So I don't have to check
|| every folder to make sure it's copied??
| ---End Quote---
| I haven't tested it but it should copy the actual original data. I'm
| not sure about copying of the "Documents and Settings" junction.

I use
*copy/[!DESCRIPT.ION]/a:-d/fhjkuvxz/nejt/s/md c:\ d:\
to back up my primary drive to another drive. It copies all files, but does
not copy trees starting at a junction. Files which have "hard links" (i.e.,
file bodies cataloged under multiple directory entries) are copied under
each directory entry. I use WinXP, on which attribute changes made for one
directory entry are not immediately updated for the other directory entries
of hard linked files, using /X/A:A to prevent making multiple copies of the
file body does NOT work. All physical files in the source tree are copied.
IIRC Vista allows directories to have be hard linked also; this may result
in whole trees duplicated...

Making a record of junctions on the backup device may be useful; you can do
it with a command like this:
pdir/s/a:j/(fpnq @junction
[*]) c:\

Another useful, but very time-consuming process is to make a file to allow
recreating file hard links.
--
HTH, Steve

Steve / Dennis,

Thanks guys. I'll try to see if I can get some of this to work.

Regards,
Chuck