WAD Messages cannot be seen or accessed in Forum

May 20, 2008
3,515
4
Elkridge, MD, USA
I received latest post from Dan Mathews (a perceived problem with DIR) and a response by Frank by email. However, when I browse the Forums they are not shown; if I click on either of those posts in Outlook Express a new tab is opened in Firefox, and I get the message:

Take Command Windows command processor - Error
You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action.

What's going on?
 
May 20, 2008
3,515
4
Elkridge, MD, USA
Dan deleted the thread. (He created it; I guess that gives him the right to destroy it.)
How does an ordinary mortal creature clicking on "view this thread" obtain that information? If the JPsoft forum would display a message "This thread has been deleted" we would not have been spending our time on this issue.

Once information has been disseminated, it cannot be recalled. Deleting a thread does not make already distributed copies disappear. Whoever received the original information needs to be informed of any subsequent change of status!
 
May 24, 2010
855
0
Northlake, Il
Sorry, Steve. (It's amazing to me how late at night some people are there to respond to threads. Other countries?) As I said in my reply to your post on that issue in what's left of that thread I had made a stupid mistake (which I am quite fond of doing! :) ). In the future since I now know that this can be a problem I will not delete postings that started threads when I discover that I've screwed up; rather I will add a new posting that says something to the effect of "Stupid mistake. Problem resolved.)

- Dan
 

Charles Dye

Super Moderator
Staff member
May 20, 2008
4,446
88
Albuquerque, NM
prospero.unm.edu
In the future since I now know that this can be a problem I will not delete postings that started threads when I discover that I've screwed up; rather I will add a new posting that says something to the effect of "Stupid mistake. Problem resolved.)

It would be nice if you'll also add a brief description of how you solved it, or what the problem turned out to be, in case someone else encounters the same issue in the future.
 

rconn

Administrator
Staff member
May 14, 2008
12,340
149
How does an ordinary mortal creature clicking on "view this thread" obtain that information? If the JPsoft forum would display a message "This thread has been deleted" we would not have been spending our time on this issue.

I don't think that whether a user decides to edit or delete a post is really any business of the rest of the users. If the post isn't there any more, don't try to respond and don't stress out. There's only two possible things that could have happened:

1) The user deleted it (99.9% of the time)
2) A moderator deleted it (0.1% of the time, only for spam)

Once information has been disseminated, it cannot be recalled. Deleting a thread does not make already distributed copies disappear. Whoever received the original information needs to be informed of any subsequent change of status!

I honestly don't know what you want me to do here -- prohibit anyone from editing or deleting their posts? Send email notifications every time somebody edits or deletes a post? (BTW, that would increase your email by at least an order of magnitude; some users edit their posts multiple times.)

This is ONLY relevant for the ~10 users who want email notifications; the other 940 registered forum users don't care. And as I've mentioned a few dozen times previously, JP Software does not support email notifications. It is what it is; if you don't like an aspect of it, don't use it. I will not be modifying it.
 
May 24, 2010
855
0
Northlake, Il
Charles and Steve, a long explanation regarding your questions. I was trying to copy what I thought was a file but was really a directory to another drive, and "copy" wasn't copying it because I had (somehow) already copied said directory either to said drive from my RAM disk or from said drive to my RAM disk (and I always use the /O parameter on the copy command to help me avoid the stupid mistakes that I am so fond of; i.e. I virtually never want to actually overwrite an existing file because I keep past versions of many files for "historical" purposes, and I rename these files so that their name contains "version" information of some kind) so said directory existed on both drives, and I didn't notice that said directory already existed on the destination drive because when I am only interested in the files in a given directory I automatically do the "Dir" with the "/A-D /K /M" parameters (probably about 90% of the time) so I therefore didn't see it. And the fundamental mistake that I had made was that I mis-named the directory I was trying to copy; it contained the files extracted from a 7z (similar to zip) file. I do this a lot; but I usually name the directory containing these files "Base7zFileName.un7z", and this time I had (somehow and stupidly) given the directory the same name as the 7z file that contained the files I had extracted so I thought I was trying to copy a file and not a directory and that was failing. As I said, a stupid mistake.

- Dan
 
Jan 19, 2011
604
14
Norman, OK
I honestly don't know what you want me to do here -- prohibit anyone from editing or deleting their posts?

Don't prohibit editing, just deleting (except for moderators). Once a post has been created, it should remain (with the exception of spam). If the OP decides against the message afterwards, they can edit it to reflect their change of mind, but the post (even if edited to a blank message) and its chain of replies should remain.
 
May 20, 2008
3,515
4
Elkridge, MD, USA
I disagree about editing, agree about deleting. In a browser-based forum quoting what you respond to is useful only in the rare case when you want to reply point-by-point. If I reply to a post, but it is edited by the time my response is posted, I may be agreeing to jump off a bridge. Furthermore, if one could not take back once already posted, one would be more careful in the first place - hence fewer junk posts. So I think a change of mind should be a separate post. I don't mind admitting that I have in the past posted baseless complaints - I, too, make dumb mistakes. Remember the old saying: "make sure mind is in gear before putting mouth in motion".
 
May 20, 2008
3,515
4
Elkridge, MD, USA
Maybe that's a fantasy, but it would still provide the disposition of a message that had been posted. Of course, the only thing that could let me know that someone else had posted an answer (or that the OP found the answer) while I was composing my own answer - so I would stop duplicating effort - is if the forum were more like a chat board without buffering, i.e., anyone's response to a thread were delivered to all currently logged in users a character at a time. But at least the thread currently viewed could be updated in my browser in real time whenever a new post arrives. AFAIK there is no mechanism to "refresh" the thread, only to close it and open it again.
 
Similar threads
Thread starter Title Forum Replies Date
M Strange error messages from TCC in FTP copy Support 7
vefatica Debug messages from TEE? Support 3
vefatica "Access denied" messages from DO Support 3
rconn News Site down, messages lost Support 0
B Fixed Error messages from TCMD.INI Support 2
S WAD DEL /E suppresses fatal ERROR messages Support 2
vefatica UNTAR gives misleading messages Support 3
R SYNC /T /W does not suppress "deleting" messages Support 0
R How to Suppress "Removing Directory" Messages Support 3
Jay Sage How Can SENDMAIL Create Messages with Plain Text and HTML Support 2
C Rex: Missing email messages from all forums Support 7
S Repeated messages Support 0
Stefano Piccardi TCC 9.02.152 truncated error messages Support 3
Charles Dye No error messages for RD /S ? Support 4
jdanielp Cannot step into and/or call another .bat file when debugging .bat file Support 2
fishman@panix.com HELP!! I just updated to Version 28 and as usual I cannot make extended directory search work. Support 2
samintz WAD Cannot unset .py[co] Support 2
Peter Murschall TEE cannot handle Unicode output Support 2
L Cannot get DEBUGMONITOR to work Support 5
Jay Sage Cannot Postion Cursor in Command Line Using Mouse Support 7
Joe Caverly A new guard page for the stack cannot be created Support 6
O I cannot use links to .btm files Support 5
E Cannot paste dollar sign into TCC on Windows 10 1803 Support 7
N Cannot install Support 2
Patulus TCHistoryLog: TCC: (Sys) The system cannot find the path specified Support 15
thorntonpg F1 on command line The webpage cannot be found Support 5
M Fixed Cannot use the "Browse..." function in "Find files/text" dialogbox Support 2
gschizas Fixed Cannot use extended path to delete invalid file Support 3
S WAD Cannot access mapped drive in 64b Win7 Support 15
D cannot get into ftp://jpsoft.com/oldver Support 1
T signaling firstcondition and cannot change colors Support 8
L File association: System cannot find the associated program Support 30
Q TCC: (Sys) The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. Support 0
L Thanks from larryalk was Cannot apply Start in folder for Tcmd Support 11
L Cannot apply Start In folder for Tcmd Support 15
C Cannot register v12.10 without Internet access Support 19
BobK Error from START cmd, "cannot find the file" Support 16
newbie Cannot make a btm/tcc.exe window wider Support 4
P Cannot download any of Vince Fatica's plugins Support 4
Roedy Cannot have both v10 and v11 Support 7
A Cannot permanently remove Tabs toolbar using View menu - bug? Support 8
M TCC cannot find the path specified Support 4
mscheuner TCMD 8 - cannot register on Vista x64 Support 0

Similar threads